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Encouraging Modesty
March 12, 2009
11:54 am
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We do a lot to talk about what is and is not modest here at ITM, what kinds of things can we do to encourage modesty?  Why are you modest?

March 12, 2009
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Encourage modesty- I'd say the biggest thing that encourages me is when someone notices that I am being modest and makes a positive comment. It just is so enriching to be able to share the positives of being a modest person.

I'm modest for several reasons:

  • It's the right and Godly thing to do.
  • It's more comfortable.
  • My boyfriend won't avoid me for being immodest (he has actually done this and it hurt, but I learned the lesson.).
  • I don't want my clothing to make guys imagine me in ways that they shouldn't. (Thanks For Young Women Only!)
  • It helps me be in proper Christian control of myself- if I'm not showing off my body, it's much more likely that I won't misuse my body.
  • It makes me a little bit different and I like it. I don't want to be a worldly clone, but set apart for God.
  • A tiny bit of vanity- I get acne on my back and upper chest, so I keep it covered up, because nobody wants to see icky acne.
  • It goes with the dress code at my school, so nobody makes me change clothes for being against the dress code.
  • It's a good example to other girls, even if they don't follow it. I can give friendly advice about modesty and not look like a hypocrite.
  • Modesty is classy, creates good impressions, and makes it easier to socialize with anybody because they're not staring at things they shouldn't be seeing. (Except for when modesty is frumpy, but it doesn't have to be.)

Lots of reasons, huh? :P

March 13, 2009
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Those are some great reasons.  You could write a whole series of posts based off of them… Wink

March 13, 2009
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Great reasons Anna! I especially like the last one. ;) Don't think I can add many more to that! :) 

My biggest reason is probably that I just don't want to ever be a stumbling block for christian guys or be a distraction to them! It would be so very shameful.

Respect is also a huge reason! I have respect for myself and am 100% comfortable & happy being me. I don't need to be half naked to 'feel good about myself' or anything.

As far as encouragement I always like to see other girls that are dressing modestly and still look nice. Nobody likes to stand alone, so knowing that other girls/women are trying to do the same is encouraging to me. Compliments are nice too like Anna said. Even if they are in general. Just hearing a guy say that he appreciates it. Its like "wow there are still (christian. ahem.) guys in this world that value modesty & purity instead of going along with the flow of the world and giving into their flesh."

March 13, 2009
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Was that a hint that I should write for ITM? :P

I'd be happy to, but it might take me a while. I've got a lot of other things on my plate right now, but I think I could write a few ITM articles. :)

March 13, 2009
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Arielle, I can totally understand that– people are(in general) are so much quicker to offer criticism instead of compliments.  It's important that we encourage those around us.  It's important that we compliment each other, and thank each other for being modest.

Anna09, we're always looking for writers, but it's up to you. I appreciate your comments, and you really add to our community, so if you'd like to write some posts, you're more than welcome, and we'd be glad to have you.

March 14, 2009
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Okay, so are there any things I need to know about writing a post? Are there length limits? Do I need to have a picture or something? (edit: does "you really add to our community" mean I talk a lot? haha- I've noticed that I have the most comments and I'm one of the top posters… perhaps I ought to be more quiet! :P)

Back on topic: what are good ways to encourage modesty in those who are immodest?

March 16, 2009
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Contact me via the contact form, and we'll set you up.

If this were a guy we're talking about, we'd encourage modesty through logic.  We'd explain why modesty gives power to the modest person, how clothing can cheapen th way you're looked at, etc.  The problem is, I believe tha twomen are influenced through what guys think of her, and the more attention she gets the more she wants.

At least, that's the only way I can rationalize what I see happening.  I'm not saying it's intentional, but it does seem like it's ingrained.  So, we need to actually need to overcome something that's natural.

Now, outside the box, might we calm a lot of this down of people got married earlier?

March 19, 2009
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Being married doesn't make a woman modest (witness bridegowns!). It may be an influencing factor, since she now has a husband to dote on her, but it doesn't necessarily solve the issue of women wanting attention from men. We also want to look good, and the world has told us since we were small that less fabric and more skin looks good.

Also, there is ALWAYS a call to purity, whether before or after marriage. Yes, after getting married you can do certain things that you shouldn't/couldn't before marriage, but it is still possible to be pure.

March 19, 2009
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I was actually trying to combat the modesty issue by changing the source.  I think you're right on that girls dress immodestly for attention– and hopefully marriage would give them attention– but I was actually considering more the men!

See, because we've delayed the age at which people get married, both sexes' sex drive has kicked in, but it's unfulfilled.

That's (what I believe) has lead to increase in teen pregnancy and unwed sex as well as our immodest culture.

When a girl has to compete against other girls for attention, physical and emotion affection, then she has to dress like her peers, or dress is a more provacative way to get the same attention (or at least she thinks that she does).

So, what I'm saying is that if we took the pressure off the boys (they could get married and get their sexual needs met) and off the girls (they wouldn't have to compete for attention because they have their husband), then I think clothing would become more modest.

I think that (if we had the resources) we looked historically we would find that modesty was not as big of a problem in times where the marriage age was a lot younger.

In my mind, it's all related.

March 19, 2009
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What if you don't find someone who you want to marry? I think that is a major block to those of us who are younger. For example, I wouldn't want to marry any of my classmates who I have grown up with (for many reasons), and I have no safe way to meet others my age. (My boyfriend is relatively new to my school- I met him just under 4 years ago.)

I think modesty has always been a problem. Look in the Bible at how Paul admonishes his church to wear appropriate clothing. I do agree that it probably wasn't as much of a problem, since modesty is only mentioned a few times in the Bible.

March 20, 2009
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Well, America is definitely a weird place when it comes to the whole marriage process.  I mean, historically the idea of teens finding a partner based on feelings was totally foreign.  Parents were much more involved finding people taht were suitable, and I think the foundation of those relationships were stronger.

Think of it this way, a boy and a girl might spend their entire lives getting ready to be the perfect spouse for the other person– instead of wondering who that other person my ght be!

We've been polluted in that we now base relationships and believe that love is all about how I feel toward another person whereas it's really about a unconditional committment to another person.

How much longer would marriages last if we believed that marriage was for life and unconditional than believing that I must love (the feeling) the other person?

Yes, Paul and Peter addressed modesty, so it must always have been a problem to some state, but these comments were always included with the idea that people must concentrate more on the inner "man" than the outer.  Look at Patere's admonition about clothing and you'll see it.

April 13, 2009
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MInTheGap said:

We do a lot to talk about what is and is not modest here at ITM, what kinds of things can we do to encourage modesty?  Why are you modest?


I am the secretary at a school for 7th and 8th graders. We have a dress code. .

Our students don't seem to exceed the dress code very oftern in terms of skirt length, however the midriff, cleavage issue is an ongoing battle.

Does anyone have any resource material to share that I could give students and faculty for encouraging modesty?  We also have the ongoing issue of boys with their pants falling down and showing their boxer shorts.  However, my main concern is the cleavage/midriff issue.

I worry about our girls and how much they are willing to show.

Any resource help would be greatly appreciated.

April 13, 2009
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Concerned Secretary said:

I am the secretary at a school for 7th and 8th graders. We have a dress code. .

Our students don't seem to exceed the dress code very oftern in terms of skirt length, however the midriff, cleavage issue is an ongoing battle.

Does anyone have any resource material to share that I could give students and faculty for encouraging modesty?  We also have the ongoing issue of boys with their pants falling down and showing their boxer shorts.  However, my main concern is the cleavage/midriff issue.

I worry about our girls and how much they are willing to show.

Any resource help would be greatly appreciated.


I think that a majority of the problem here is trying to teach the girls about their worth and value.  At that age, they're changing greatly and they want to appeal and attract guys– but they don't understand that they're playing with fire.

Let's see if anyone here has something that can help.

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