If we are talking about tube tops…

Bare shoulders are immodest because they can give the illusion that one is not fully dressed (M's got a post about that but I can't find it right now- M, would you find that post, please? Thanks! :) )

Bare shoulders are also immodest because it is easier to lose your shirt, for men to see down your shirt, and for the bosom to be shown. Simply put, the more skin you show, the more likely a guy is to imagine you in a compromising way.

Besides, a little mystique never hurt. Showing off your entire shoulders isn't exactly mysterious. :P

Yep, that's the post.

My (sortofexbutnotreally)boyfriend would agree with you about the wanting to put his arms around a girl's shoulders. He has told me before that he likes my shoulders and that they make me look 'softer.' I don't wear much clothing that exposes my shoulders, but he has seen them because I was more immodest before I met him. I simply didn't know the effect I was having, and he taught me about modesty.

So what about just rolling up your sleeves when you are playing a sport? I live where itis hot , so when I play sports with my sister I roll my sleeves up. WAY more comfortable. Nothing else showing, just shoulders. I have never done that when playing with my numerous guy friends, just because I've always been taught that shoulders are immodest. I really appreciate that justagirl4god posted this because it has been something that has really been frustrating me lately. Is it just tradition or is it truly immodest for me to roll up my sleeves? (You may want to note that the guys I hang around are all my age–16 or younger. I really don't think they've ever even thought about girls 'romantically', [although I could be wrong on that] so you may want to take that into account.)

Anna09 said:

TanyaBeth, I don’t think that is immodest. Most of your shoulder is covered, and your undergarment doesn’t show. When I am talking about bare shoulders I mean more of the strapless or nearly strapless tops. If your undergarments are at risk of showing, it’s probably immodest.

16-year-olds are definitely old enough to have issues if you are dressing provocatively. I started dating my boyfriend when he was 16 and we had those issues back then.

Thanks for the input, Anna. Ha, ha, well I dress anything but provocative, but thanks for the tip. :-)

Anna09 said:

Really, you should ask the guys themselves. That is something that I think they would appreciate. Asking shows you care about how they feel.

Anna,  I would love to be able to ask the guys themselves, but that is something that is just not done around here.  We just don't talk about those kind of things(We don't date or anything either til we're going to get married, so you would probably say we're pretty conservative when it comes to guys and girls. :-) ). I was hoping if I posted on here I'd get a little help from MIn. (hint, hint.) ;-)