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Posing For Senior Pic

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Is This Modest?

justagirl4god: I would say that this picture is a great example of the fact that one can dress modestly and still look ‘cool’. I love how her hair and necklace draw your eyes up towards her beautiful smile. Her skirt is nice and long, covering everything even when sitting down. The pink shirt would be immodest if worn without something underneath, but the tank shirt means that all that should be covered is. The only ‘negative’ I would have about this outfit is that the shirt seems to be pulling a little tight across her bust, but that is just personal opinion… All up – one modest outfit!

MInTheGap: This is a pretty good outfit for a senior pic.  My only question is whether the under layer on her top is too low.  She would have problems with bending over to pick something up—it’s on the border for me.  However, the fact that the layer is darker doesn’t draw my attention as much as some of the other sets of layering that we’ve seen.

Foy: Her hair is a tricky item. If you keep it in the front, it provides a natural travel line for the eye to go from the face to the chest, which can be difficult for some guys. However, if you put it back, more skin would be exposed. Either way, it could be difficult for some people. Please understand: I’m not saying that long hair is immodest; I’m just saying that sometimes this can be an occasion problem for some guys.

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13 Responses to “Posing For Senior Pic”
  1. Miss Ellie says:

    The thing about the hair is hard to figure out. Honestly my first answer to that is that I think that as woman we should have long hair and I don’t think that we should alwasy have to put our hair in a pony-tail and if having our hair laying in front is tempting to guys I think that’s when guys need to step up and just work more on controlling them selves. We girls can only do SO much.
    .-= Miss Ellie´s last blog ..When the cats away the mice will…… =-.

  2. ErinL says:

    Hmm. Interesting one! I’m afraid I have to disagree with both MIn and Foy. (Sorry guys!)
    As far as the neckline goes…I have high crew neck t-shirts that I have to be careful of when I bend over. The only shirts that aren’t like that, are ones that are so tight that they can’t move when the wearer bends…which brings up another modesty issue. I can either have a loose enough shirt/blouse that it’s modest in fit, or I can have one that won’t gape, but is much too tight. Unless you wear a button-front shirt done up allllll the way, it is always a possible problem. Just need to train ourselves to always be mindful and modest…a little move of the hand will prevent any neckline from gaping!
    Foy…I really think the hair issue is one that a guy is gonna have to deal with. Women are built with chests, and a guy can always come up with a “reason” that they noticed it, but ultimately it comes down to the fact that they notice it because it’s there…not because anything was “pointing” to it. Some ways of dressing or standing can make it more obvious, but…hair? Hmm. I think it draws more attention to her arms than anything (which isn’t immodest). This is where the man’s job starts, to stop looking for reasons they “noticed”, and just focus on the face, no matter what.

  3. Chrs says:

    The sleeves are cap, though, which makes the outline of the chest easier to see in the delineation between skin color and shirt color. I think what the guys are seeing is that the hair ends the same place as the sleeves, and there’s nothing to camouflage said outline.

  4. Lisa says:

    I wholeheartedly agree with Miss Ellie; it’s high time men exercised self-control in monitoring their thoughts. Women should not be castigated for every element of their hair or dress, simply because men fail to guard their thoughts. Honestly, now, many of these comments are perfectly foolish. Men seem so eager to design excuses for their own wanton behavior.

  5. Cangralo says:

    I like this outfit! I love the purple cami/pink top combo, and have pulled it off myself on a few occasions. I wish my hair would hold a curl. She has such pretty hair!

  6. Ilka W. J. says:

    If her hair is drawing attention to her chest… well, then I am all for guys not wearing TIES! After all, ties are shaped like an arrow, which points to… weeeeellll?? Seriously, I know churches who have that as a dresscode rule (no ties, as they “point” towards the genitals). I find that equally ridiculous. There might be an issue with blouses or shirts that sport unfortunately placed patterns or pockets, but there is a point were things are getting a bit silly, IMO.

  7. Lady Abigail says:

    I think this is perfectly modest so long as the camisole underneath doesn’t gap in which case she could just “watch it”. The hair in front being a stumbling block seems seriously ridiculous to me. :)

    #Feb2011NCARating

  8. Lois says:

    You guys are going WAY overboard.

    MIntheGap, there are a lot of girls that “show” even if they bend over in a T-shirt. Turtle-neck is the only answer if you want to avoid that. OR the girl could wear what she wants and simply place a hand across her neckline when bending over.

    Foy — you are being ridiculous. If a guy has a problem with her hair, either forward because of where it falls, or behind her back because then it shows more skin, HE has a problem, NOT her problem. What do you want us to do? Shave ourselves bald??? Oh, but that would cause the guy to stumble because — heaven forbid! — he can actually see skin on our head then!!! Or we could wear our hair up in buns under little coverings. But no, then you could see our necks, and that WOULD be sinful indeed!

    Listen, I think it’s great that you’re concerned about modesty, but please, strive for balance. You are not a woman and you do not understand how difficult it is to dress modestly unless you are one. You have no clue the lengths we go to to be modest. Guys like you make the standard sky-high and impossible to attain. Guys like you push us overboard till we are afraid to live and breathe and go out in public. Guys like you that broadcast every little thing that one or two guys struggle with dash modest girls’ feeble confidence.

    Guess what? Girls have breasts. That is LIFE. Unfortunately, the only way to hide them is to cut them off. (I’m sure you’d have a problem with that once you got married.) Or wear a cardboard box, which seems to be the only way to be completely modest.

    Yes, I believe we should strive to dress modestly, but I believe we should also be allowed to live in confidence, being proud of our bodies the way God made them. Sites like yours cause girls to live in fear and be ashamed of their bodies. Girls need to be able to LIVE without being petrified that they are causing guys to stumble, and your site goes way overboard.

    • MInTheGap says:

      I guess I have to answer this on two levels. First, this post was written not to judge but to point out things that could be a problem for guys– and sometimes it does appear that we went a little far so as to give a wrong impression. Part of the difficulty of running a site where you have to add commentary, I suppose. Obviously you are right about holding her hand over her shirt. Second, you need to read more than one post to understand what we believe and what we’re attempting to do here. For example, check out Every Man’s Responsibility to see what I mean.

  9. Lois says:

    MInTheGap, could you repost that link? I followed it but it comes up with “page not found”
    Thanks!

  10. Lois says:

    I read a lot more than just one post on your site, and was getting the same impression from numerous other articles.

    Thank-you for your link to “Every Man’s Responsibility.” I highly agree with the phrase, “So men, let’s not endorse modesty because we believe it’ll make it easier on us. That train has no end: she wears a long skirt, the girl that shows her ankles will be lusted after, etc. Let’s endorse modesty because it helps the ladies in our lives be seen for being more than someone that men should avoid, someone that’s only advertising her body and looks. Let’s endorse modesty for true beauty—the beauty that comes from within.”

    I do believe, though, that too much focus on modesty and analyzing it too much can be very harmful to a girl who is vulnerable and growing and shaping her beliefs, and can push her to go too far to the other end of the scale — super-modest [my husband calls it the "only safe thing to wear is a cardboard box" syndrome"!] and terrified of men. I have seen girls like this. I have seen those tendencies in myself, growing up, to the point where I couldn’t enjoy the fellowship of Christian brothers because I was so self-conscious about the perfectly modest clothing I was wearing, because I was worried it WASN’T modest.

    That is what worries me about your site — it seems there is TOO much focus. I am glad to see you have posts like “Every Man’s Responsibility” that seek to bring balance, however.

    • FatherOf4 says:

      Lois, I like your point of “the train that has no end.” The apparel based modesty to which we are referring reduces men to predators and women to prey. There is nothing which will make life easier on us [men], except an acceptance of the physical differences and the more frequent non-sexual exposure (some would call desensitization) of the differences.
      By moving the hand to the chest to ‘protect’ the exposure of cleavage when bending, a woman is now drawing attention (with the hand movement) to the very parts which she is trying to downplay.
      Women have breasts. These are functionally the same as the breasts of men. The only difference is the additional fatty tissue intermingled with the mammary glands (yes, men can and do breastfeed). In addition, women have a layer of fatty tissue underneath their skin through out their body (this is what gives the softer shape which we can see evidenced in her arms). So if the differing fatty tissue is the problem, then we need to enforce the covering of the entire figure.

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